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21 July 2008 @ 05:09 pm
In which I lose even more faith in humanity.  
So, I'm browsing news sites, as I often do when I'm as bored as I am, and I come across this Newsweek article on the murder of Larry King, an eighth-grader who identified as gay. The article was so-so, with a lot of the same not-exactly-as-objective-as-it-could-be details that seem to show up in Newsweek stories, but what really, really got to me were the comments. Now, I know that I do an awful lot of bitching about assholes who can't pull their heads out of their Bibles long enough to see that there is no fundamental difference between gay people and straight people, but this shit made me physically ill. You really get the full spectrum of fuckheads here. From the Bible-thumpers:

       "Homosexuality is a sin and a abomination. That young man needed Jesus in his life not these sick T.V. shows telling him it's OK to fall in love with and be intimate another man. I can't believe America has actually went from "ONE NATION UNDER GOD TO ONE NATION GOING UNDER" Gay IS NOT OK. We were created Adam and Eve, Man and Female. Don't get me wrong I love the people but I hate the life style."

... To the Nazi doctors:

        "Homosexual BEHAVIOR is learned; because no one was born seeking to mate with another. Such unhealthy, unnatural and abnormal BEHAVIOR should not be learned or passed on... F@gots need to be Cured or Closeted or Confined, and Castrated when they pick on children."

... To the "I don't know what the fuck I'm talking about" people:

        "You don't grow up homosexual, you choose to be homosexual. Sometimes it comes from not having a strong father figure, and sometimes it comes from them being molested."

... To the plain stupid inbred hicks:

        "One less queer."

And this is a tiny fraction of literally hundreds of comments saying the exact same thing. The pure weight of the ignorance, the intolerance, the pure hatred that spews from these fuckers is unbelievable. As a student of history, I find it very hard to believe that this country fought to get rid of people like Adolf Hitler, and yet there are still so fucking many imbeciles who spout the exact same things that he preached - AND THEN TRY TO USE A FUCKING BOOK TO DEFEND IT! Does the fact that Hitler wrote in Mein Kampf  that Jews are evil make it okay for anyone to persecute them? HELL no! Why, then, is it considered perfectly acceptable to uphold the exclusion, persecution, degradation, and murder of human beings based on nothing more solid than a few sentences in a book of folklore? Many of the comments on that article took the position that Larry King, who was all of thirteen years old, by the way, deserved to be shot twice in the head at nearly point blank range because he identified himself as gay. There is nothing even slightly acceptable about such a viewpoint. Period. End of conversation. No middle ground. I'm reminded of something I once read on a favorite blog of mine on the subject: This is not a reasoned debate between two equal, logical viewpoints. This is a struggle by a group of people who want the same rights as every other goddamn human being in this pathetic country against idealogical forces who truly believe that we are less than human, who believe that we do not deserve the same rights that they take advantage of every single day. This is the kind of shit that makes me fearful for my own safety. I had previously told myself that I am going to be out in college, but after reading this vast, steaming, ferocious pile of bullshit, bile, and vitriol, I am truly frightened of doing so.

I sincerely wish I had happier news with which to offset this, but I really don't, and I'm not at all in the mood to go look for any.
 
 
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Spooky Trista Maleficent X: Emo Pikaspookyg on August 26th, 2008 09:14 am (UTC)
Found you friended me, so I friended you back. :)

As to the post:

I guess I fall into the Bible-thumper category then.

The way I look at it is, not my fault the God I believe in made these stupid rules. You could then say that if I thought these rules were stupid, why do I follow the religion. The answer would be personal experience. I've been involved in lots of religions in my few twenty-two years, but the only one that gave me any god-to-mortal feedback was Christianity.

I hate to be the "bad guy" and believe all these things that are pretty much unfair, but since I believe the Christian God proved to me he was real, what else can I do? I don't like the prospect of hell. Eternal pain? Not my thing.

Like the Bible-thumper said, I care for the people, but not the action.

So I guess I'm of those "fuckheads," huh?

Not that I got a problem with that since I offend lots of people on a daily basis. lol

I thought I might as well be upfront and see if you still wanted me added as a friend.
Robertbaldran on August 27th, 2008 09:31 pm (UTC)
I see no reason not to add you. A little disagreement is healthy most of the time. It's not like I'm running a totalitarian regime here.

The reason I use the language and draw the conclusions that I did (besides being wicked pissed off, of course), is that I find it incredibly presumptuous for someone to say to me, "Oh, your sexual preference is an unnatural choice, and you need to be cured/punished" based on a source that has no logical, scientific provenance at all. I find it incredibly presumptuous that some people will, without a shadow of a doubt, treat me as subhuman my entire life based on something that they have to take on faith. Why would someone choose, on faith, to hate my legitimate love for another person, regardless of sex?

I'm bi. I did not choose to be bi in any sense of the word. If I thought that I would be happier straight and could be made straight on my terms without being told that feelings I've felt my entire life are wrong or disgusting, chances are I'd take that option, because there's no way I enjoy being blatantly hated and relegated to subhuman status for something I have no control over. Unfortunately, that never happens, and probably will never be possible, so I will stay exactly the same as I've been my entire life. I am what I am, and if someone cannot accept that this is what I am, regardless of whether they support it or not, then I don not want to have that much to do with that person.
Spooky Trista Maleficent X: L Towerspookyg on August 28th, 2008 12:26 am (UTC)
Well, all I can say is I agree with everything in the quote from the Bible-thumper.

The key part is just that I love the people, but not the action.

Just because we hate the sin doesn't mean that person you quoted necessarily treats you as a "subhuman."

Case in point, I have plenty of gay and bi friends. I hate their sin, but I love them.

I was just trying to show that not all of us Bible-thumpers treat you bi and gay people like shit.

I don't want to debate it, though. I'm not good at debates.
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